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The returning quest for credible Hauptwerk Reverb


Hi all -

Several participants at this Contrebombarde posting website are declaring their personal use of "additional reverb" in their performances, their organ play at home, and their uploads.

Leaving aside ethical considerations of ''adding your own reverb'' to existing sample-sets (some could criticise such actions!), the notion of adding additional reverb to existing and publicly purchased dry samples - even if ''a tiny bit more'' ! - is not an option supplied in existing Hauptwerk sofware, even though the User Guide refers to this -- and then argues it does not want to include installation instructions of "third party" products. Which is fair enough from a company perspective, I think.

Yet there are several references to a Reverb installation document on the Hauptwerk Forum --- a document which seems to have vanished as an upload from that Forum.

If you have experience with using Reverb and installing this into your Hauptwerk installation, could you share your thoughts and experiences please --- and include brand and version of such software?
by jacko
Jul 15, 2019 12:27 AM

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RE: The returning quest for credible Hauptwerk Reverb

jacko wrote:

Hi all -

Several participants at this Contrebombarde posting website are declaring their personal use of "additional reverb" in their performances, their organ play at home, and their uploads.

Leaving aside ethical considerations of ''adding your own reverb'' to existing sample-sets (some could criticise such actions!), the notion of adding additional reverb to existing and publicly purchased dry samples - even if ''a tiny bit more'' ! - is not an option supplied in existing Hauptwerk sofware, even though the User Guide refers to this -- and then argues it does not want to include installation instructions of "third party" products. Which is fair enough from a company perspective, I think.

Yet there are several references to a Reverb installation document on the Hauptwerk Forum --- a document which seems to have vanished as an upload from that Forum.

If you have experience with using Reverb and installing this into your Hauptwerk installation, could you share your thoughts and experiences please --- and include brand and version of such software?

I use "Acon Digital Verberate" (sells for $99), running the Hauptwerk VST in the Cantabile Host (free download). Works great, lots of settings and adjustments possible, and easy to use.

by OrganoPleno
Jul 15, 2019 11:38 AM

RE: The returning quest for credible Hauptwerk Reverb

I recommend that you go to this site: http://www.pbrd.nl/index.php/vo/downloads

If you look at the tabs along the left side and go to the 5th tab from the top you will see that it is marked "Add reverb." Click on it and you will be taken to a lengthy and useful discussion of how to add reverb to Hauptwerk along with links to files and utilities to enable you to do it.

By the way, this site also offers some very nice sample sets for Hauptwerk at no charge.
by vinyleater
Jul 15, 2019 02:49 PM

RE: The returning quest for credible Hauptwerk Reverb

OrganoPleno wrote:

I use "Acon Digital Verberate" (sells for $99), running the Hauptwerk VST in the Cantabile Host (free download). Works great, lots of settings and adjustments possible, and easy to use.

Thanks OrganoPleno! Your post, and the post below by vinyleater, seems to point to the same solution (using Cantabile). I tried some of the steps when I first installed Hauptwerk, but something went wrong (and I panicked), so I uninstalled it. It seems I have to pick up some courage and try this again!

by jacko
Jul 15, 2019 04:56 PM

RE: The returning quest for credible Hauptwerk Reverb

vinyleater wrote:

I recommend that you go to this site: http://www.pbrd.nl/index.php/vo/downloads

If you look at the tabs along the left side and go to the 5th tab from the top you will see that it is marked "Add reverb." Click on it and you will be taken to a lengthy and useful discussion of how to add reverb to Hauptwerk along with links to files and utilities to enable you to do it.

By the way, this site also offers some very nice sample sets for Hauptwerk at no charge.

Many thanks, vynileater!

by jacko
Jul 15, 2019 04:57 PM

RE: The returning quest for credible Hauptwerk Reverb

In my humble opinion, Ambisonic (full-sphere surround sound) Impulse Response reverb is the most realistic reverb option available. I have put together a free downloadable Resource Kit containing all of the software and documentation needed to implement it in Hauptwerk. Here is the download link:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1SrljZj-16ZSrS2MQvX4_N_xOlXGKi-Pn?usp=sharing

The "Guide to Using Ambisonic Reverb in Hauptwerk" file in the "Documents" folder of the Resource Kit provides step-by-step instructions.

Unlike most other reverb options, which use microphones placed in several different locations throughout the building, Ambisonics uses an actual 3D "acoustic snapshot" of a building recorded in B-Format from a single point location. In theory, at least, your head can only be in one place at a time!

I hope this is helpful.
by djwf
Jul 17, 2019 11:50 AM

RE: The returning quest for credible Hauptwerk Reverb

djwf wrote:

In my humble opinion, Ambisonic (full-sphere surround sound) Impulse Response reverb is the most realistic reverb option available. I have put together a free downloadable Resource Kit containing all of the software and documentation needed to implement it in Hauptwerk. Here is the download link:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1SrljZj-16ZSrS2MQvX4_N_xOlXGKi-Pn?usp=sharing

The "Guide to Using Ambisonic Reverb in Hauptwerk" file in the "Documents" folder of the Resource Kit provides step-by-step instructions.

Unlike most other reverb options, which use microphones placed in several different locations throughout the building, Ambisonics uses an actual 3D "acoustic snapshot" of a building recorded in B-Format from a single point location. In theory, at least, your head can only be in one place at a time!

I hope this is helpful.

WOW - thank you very much! You've shared an extensive resource which deserves full exploration. It looks impressive; I've downloaded the folder, which is now waiting for me to take out a day or two to fully read it and grasp the issues it throws up for me. Many thanks for sharing your work (which seems an almost brand-new initiative from you...) !

by jacko
Jul 17, 2019 04:24 PM

RE: The returning quest for credible Hauptwerk Reverb

jacko wrote:

WOW - thank you very much! You've shared an extensive resource which deserves full exploration. It looks impressive; I've downloaded the folder, which is now waiting for me to take out a day or two to fully read it and grasp the issues it throws up for me. Many thanks for sharing your work (which seems an almost brand-new initiative from you...) !

I actually created this in conjunction with the recent distribution of my new French Romantic Composite Organ in the "Hauptwerk Virtual Organ Users" group on Facebook (which proved quite popular). Since it was already "ready-made" when I saw this topic in this forum, I decided to share it here.

by djwf
Jul 18, 2019 06:29 PM

RE: The returning quest for credible Hauptwerk Reverb

I use Reaper's convolutional reverb with theatre organ sample sets. All the church organ sample sets I play have the natural acoustic of the building (which in small churches can be very dry) in them and I do not want to change this. Theatre organ sample sets are different as they are nearly always recorded dry inside the chambers in order to preserve the subtle fluctutations of the tremulant, which would be lost if recorded in a longer acoustic. So in this case the added reverb restores the sound that a listener would hear in the auditorium - the organ does not sound its best in the chambers as it was voiced to work with the acoustic of the auditorium.

I originally picked Reaper - not free but not expensive - simply because there was a Milan document describing how to link it via the VST link. I have been very happy with it. When recording I listen to the output from Reaper, so that my articulation matches the acoustic but I record using the Hauptwerk built-in recorder and then process the WAV file offline with Reaper to add the same reverb as I heard when playing. Nearly all my theatre organ postings on CBB have been produced this way.
by Mirch4
Jul 20, 2019 04:36 AM

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