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Hello Everyone,

This is my first post on this forum.

I've just started on the path towards setting up my own virtual pipe organ utilizing the Hauptwerk software. I'm doing research into audio components and was wondering what others are using and what you might recommend. The first component I'll be purchasing, oddly enough, will be headphones. I've recently had to discard a set that broke and wasn't worth fixing. I need them for other uses and plan on using them with my virtual organ set-up for when I want some privacy practicing or not disturbing others at home. I came across a recommendation somewhere, I forgot where I read it; they recommended spending the money for a good set of professional headphones. AKG Pro Audio Audio K702 Channel Studio Headphones was what was suggested, but in my research I've read a few bad reviews about the bass end and that the sound drops off from time to time. I'm wondering about what you are all using and would recommend.

The other item I'm looking for is a good sub-woofer that would support the lowest of sounds such as that from a 32' pipe in the pedals. Any recommendations?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Eugene
by Eugene_Grey
Dec 4, 2017 03:25 AM

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RE: Audio Questions

Hello Eugene,

I'm using the mentioned AKG K-702 and I'm very happy with it. The sound is very detailled and the bass is present but also transparent. Most headphones sound in the bass part to muddy/heavy to me, so I'm very content with the AKG.
I used to have a BeyerDynamic headphone (I believe it was a DT-770), that was very good too. Unfortunaltely it didn't work anymore and I decided to buy the AKG. No regrets on that!

But there will be more (very) good headphones ... I hope more users will respond :-)

Best regards,
Marco

by marcothart
Dec 4, 2017 03:58 AM

RE: Audio Questions

marcothart wrote:

Hello Eugene,

I'm using the mentioned AKG K-702 and I'm very happy with it. The sound is very detailled and the bass is present but also transparent. Most headphones sound in the bass part to muddy/heavy to me, so I'm very content with the AKG.
I used to have a BeyerDynamic headphone (I believe it was a DT-770), that was very good too. Unfortunaltely it didn't work anymore and I decided to buy the AKG. No regrets on that!

But there will be more (very) good headphones ... I hope more users will respond :-)

Best regards,
Marco

Hello Marco,

Thank you for your prompt reply. I think I'll be going ahead on the purchase of AKG Pro Audio Audio K702's. There seems to be far more positive than negative reviews on them, I'll just be sure to buy them where they have a robust return policy. I really appreciate your input on them.

kind regards,

Eugene

by Eugene_Grey
Dec 5, 2017 04:48 AM

RE: Audio Questions

I switched from the AKG you mentioned to Bayerdynamic DT 770 PRO. To me the mid high frequentions of the AKG where to loud it gives everything a metalic sound which i find not natural. The AKG makes me feel tired.

by Fazioli
Dec 5, 2017 06:23 AM

RE: Audio Questions

I forgot to mention the cable of the AKG, it didnt make good connection anymore after some time, and it was very expensive to repair. Never had any problems with the cable of the Bayer.

by Fazioli
Dec 5, 2017 06:30 AM

RE: Audio Questions

Fazioli wrote:

I forgot to mention the cable of the AKG, it didnt make good connection anymore after some time, and it was very expensive to repair. Never had any problems with the cable of the Bayer.

Thank you for your input Fazioli!

It's interesting that you mentioned the problems with the cable, I read that same issue on a couple of the reviews that I read too. I find that it's difficult to make a decision on what to purchase solely on the basis of consumer reviews, as I believe that people tend to voice their opinions more when something goes wrong with a product than if they are happy with it.

I appreciate your feedback.

Kindly,

Eugene

by Eugene_Grey
Dec 7, 2017 03:26 AM

RE: Audio Questions

While building my hauptwerk set I have been looking for headphones anbd found out that the impedance is very important. I have Motional Feedback Speakers with pre-amplifier en the impedance of Beyer-Dynamic is too high. So I tried out several ones in the shops, had the Studio headphone, Focal Spirit and Focal Classic at home for evaluation.
Now I thus have the Focal Classic headphone and it is my default souns source, since you have no acoutics problems, the headphone is very compoftable and very durable. I love them

by FredM
Dec 10, 2017 10:47 AM

RE: Audio Questions

Hi Eugene,

Can't say much about headphones, but for the bass part, I'm still opting for a GoldenEar SuperSub XXL. (Review available at https://hometheaterhifi.com/reviews/speaker/subwoofers/goldenear-technology-supersub-xxl-subwoofer-review/ )

Even if the review montiones some downsides in the sub-20Hz range, this box -- at least according to the specs -- is capable of going down to 10 Hz, where 16 Hz would be sufficient to reproduce the base frequency of a 32' pipe.

If anyone would be able to come up with a more appropriate suggestion, I'd surely be interested in any further material or information.


Kind Regards,
-- Carsten

by woody-mc
Dec 12, 2017 06:18 PM

RE: Audio Questions

woody-mc wrote:

Hi Eugene,

Can't say much about headphones, but for the bass part, I'm still opting for a GoldenEar SuperSub XXL. (Review available at https://hometheaterhifi.com/reviews/speaker/subwoofers/goldenear-technology-supersub-xxl-subwoofer-review/ )

Even if the review montiones some downsides in the sub-20Hz range, this box -- at least according to the specs -- is capable of going down to 10 Hz, where 16 Hz would be sufficient to reproduce the base frequency of a 32' pipe.

If anyone would be able to come up with a more appropriate suggestion, I'd surely be interested in any further material or information.


Kind Regards,
-- Carsten

Thank you for the recommendation Carsten. If you end up purchasing this sub-woofer I'd be interested in hearing back from you on it's performance. It looks like a nice piece of equipment.

Kindly,

Eugene

by Eugene_Grey
Dec 13, 2017 01:42 PM

RE: Audio Questions

I have been a happy user of AKG 702's since 2005, so they have worked faithfully for the past 12 years or so. I had a pair of Bose Quietcomfort 2 headphones purchased 2 years earlier in 2003 for approximately $300 or $350 USD, and they crapped out on me within 2 years. (The plastic inserts that attach the earcups to the headband had cracked in numerous places due to stress cracks. For a while, I was able to superglue the pieces back together, but in the end it was futile.) I also invested about the same amount of cash in some in-ear earpieces, but one channel went silent after about only a year -- the earpieces were of a recognizable name brand, but for the life of me, I have forgotten their brand name.

Regarding bass response in the AKG 702's, I will agree they are light in the bass. How do I know? Well, when I master some Hauptwerk Recordings using the 702's, the recordings sound bass HEAVY on good stereo systems equipped with subwoofers. As it turns out, from an absolute perspective, one's ears DO ADAPT to their lessened bass.

Incidentally, I have been known to listen to my 702's using ONLY the M&K powered subwoofer, externally. Since these are open-air headphones, I can feel the bass coming from the subwoofer -- but my wife does NOT like the effect!

Cheers,

Joe

by jcfelice88keys
Dec 30, 2017 11:26 PM

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