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live VS midi ...
Hello friends,
When uploading a file, we have to choose between live or midi.
I think it's a too limited choice : only two options !
I often wonder how and in which conditions a musical piece is recorded...
Here is a more detailed suggestion : The uploader could select beween 8 kinds of situations.
1- live performance with real audience in the Hauptwerk room, as a real organ concert.
2- live performance with relatives or family, intimate audience, (not sure it's easier than n°1 ! )
3- live performance, lonely player, no audience, at home in a quiet environment.
4- live performance, in several takes ( select the best take at the end)
5- live performance in several parts (parts joined afterwards with an audio editor)
6- live performance recorded in midi (cutting, pasting, correcting mistakes afterward if needed)
7- re-using a midi file from another musician, or made by oneself on another organ
8- using a midi file created by a sequencer or a score editor
Please, don't consider this as a ranking : I think every process in this list is interesting.
In my case, it's n°3, n°4, or n°5. (I don't wan't n°2 anymore, too stressful disapointing !)
What do you think ?
(I posted this topic on the HW forum too ... )
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by sesquialtera May 4, 2018 01:42 PM
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RE: live VS midi ...
Good idea, thanks.
For me, unfortunalety it will be always "8" because I have great troubles with my hands.
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by musicalis May 4, 2018 06:36 PM
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RE: live VS midi ...
Sounds exquisite, sesquialtera!
In my case, it would mainly be #2 and #3, with rare occurrences of #5 and even less occurrences of #7. Maybe this kind of improved (and more meaningful) selection will be able to cause less confusion for uploaders what this option is all about than the current selection options do.
In the past, I spent quite a bit of time with digging through improperly tagged uploads, where performances were "scripted"/sequenced MIDI but had the "Live" tag on it. It's a bit misleading, e.g. when you're looking for certain features of execution technique that only occur in a real live performance -- or, in another case, don't find a MIDI recording with its replayed MIDI file attached (although it existed, but with a "Live" tag).
I do appreciate your suggestion very much.
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by woody-mc May 4, 2018 08:59 PM
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RE: live VS midi ...
musicalis wrote:
Good idea, thanks.
For me, unfortunalety it will be always "8" because I have great troubles with my hands. Musicalis, I'm sorry to hear about the trouble you have with your hands.
Please don't get me wrong, but there's absolutely no need for anybody to be "too shy" to pick #8 for his or her uploads. First, just like Sesquialtera already stated, it's neither a ranking nor a competition. Second, I think that option #8 uploads are at least as interesting (and important!) as those with any other number!
They perfectly show what is technically possible with Hauptwerk and are a great way to exchange music that does not depend on the MIDI messages of a specific sample set (like a MIDI recording of a live performance would often do).
I dearly hope that you'll take this as an encouragement for further publishing! :-)
Best Regards,
Carsten
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by woody-mc May 4, 2018 09:22 PM
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RE: live VS midi ...
Thank you Carsten.
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by musicalis May 5, 2018 04:27 AM
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RE: live VS midi ...
I like to add the issue of registration. I really enjoy to make a midi recording and try different registrations afterwards.
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by GuidoSmo May 7, 2018 04:25 PM
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RE: live VS midi ...
I currently don't have a working MIDI setup (my home organ is a Yamaha Electone that doesn't seem to have a way of connecting to a MIDI interface), so I fall into the 7th and 8th situations. I prefer using another performer's MIDI file whenever I can find one (from here or elsewhere); creating a MIDI file from scratch is somewhat time consuming and it feels unnatural editing expression/rubato into the file.
The software I currently use for MIDI editing is Sibelius, not sure if it's that ideal but it's what I'm most familiar with. Indeed it does have some annoying quirks when importing MIDI files; typically the note values are extremely jumbled due to Sibelius fitting everything to a strict time signature, and sometimes entire notes are missing; however for the most part it does the job fairly well.
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by Posaune32 May 8, 2018 01:33 AM
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RE: live VS midi ...
I sometimes record and then realize my son is practicing the trombone in the next room.
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by unclegally May 8, 2018 05:26 AM
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RE: live VS midi ...
Posaune32 wrote:
I currently don't have a working MIDI setup (my home organ is a Yamaha Electone that doesn't seem to have a way of connecting to a MIDI interface), so I fall into the 7th and 8th situations. I prefer using another performer's MIDI file whenever I can find one (from here or elsewhere); creating a MIDI file from scratch is somewhat time consuming and it feels unnatural editing expression/rubato into the file.
The software I currently use for MIDI editing is Sibelius, not sure if it's that ideal but it's what I'm most familiar with. Indeed it does have some annoying quirks when importing MIDI files; typically the note values are extremely jumbled due to Sibelius fitting everything to a strict time signature, and sometimes entire notes are missing; however for the most part it does the job fairly well. Hello
If you can, try Notion-6 software (from Presonus). It is a nice and Professional notation editor with very complete Midi functions.
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by musicalis May 8, 2018 05:44 AM
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RE: live VS midi ...
My method is:
Sometimes no.3, mostly no.4, 5 or 6 and very seldom no. 7
Never no. 1, 2 and 8. As music editor I work with Audicity. Very often I play live (alone and pick best choice and ad parts with different registrations together
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by FredM May 8, 2018 04:50 PM
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RE: live VS midi ...
Great idea! :)
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by JonLiinason May 8, 2018 06:02 PM
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