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Help needed: Hymn tune by Ira D. Sankey


These days we spoke about a hymn tune by Ira David Sankey (1840-1908), which is used in our hymn book (arrangement by Werner Paulus) together with the text of Arno Pötzsch (1900-1956) "Das Jahr geht hin, nun segne du".


https://www.contrebombarde.com/concerthall/music/43698

Now we need some help: Could someone please tell me the original text and/or the tune name by which we may search for a hymn prelude for use in the divine service?

Thank you very much in advance, and Happy New Year!
Oliver
by Insulaner
Jan 1, 2021 10:58 AM

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RE: Help needed: Hymn tune by Ira D. Sankey

I searched the following page without success according to the text and the incipit (which sounds like 5333. None of those match, though there is one slightly similar melody. There are a lot of tunes without incipts, and maybe one of those is the correct one?

https://hymnary.org/person/Sankey_IraDavid?tab=tunes

Good luck.
Erik
by Hoofdwerk
Jan 1, 2021 04:40 PM

RE: Help needed: Hymn tune by Ira D. Sankey

Hoofdwerk wrote:

I searched the following page without success according to the text and the incipit (which sounds like 5333. None of those match, though there is one slightly similar melody. There are a lot of tunes without incipts, and maybe one of those is the correct one?

https://hymnary.org/person/Sankey_IraDavid?tab=tunes

Good luck.
Erik

Thank you, Erik, for your kind advice. I will check this Site.

by Insulaner
Jan 1, 2021 10:20 PM

RE: Help needed: Hymn tune by Ira D. Sankey

Insulaner wrote:

Thank you, Erik, for your kind advice. I will check this Site.

If it is of interest for anyone:

The mystery is solved. The song titel is "Room for Jesus" (first stanza "Hast thou no room within thy heart" (Author: John Henry Yates)

https://hymnary.org/text/hast_thou_no_room_within_thy_heart#pagescans

In our hymn book the melodie is "smoothed out" (plain quarter notes) and the first line of the chorus is slightly differtent, but overall it is the same melodie line.

Thanks for all help!
Oliver

by Insulaner
Jan 8, 2021 06:57 AM

RE: Help needed: Hymn tune by Ira D. Sankey

Hi Oliver,

I already figured the melody has probably been worked on. I wonder didn't Werner Paulus already tell you he made a new setting of that Sankey gospel hymn?

In any case this means there are no preludes on the NAC version. You could ask Mr Paulus for one :-)

The original is rare, I did not find any preludes on this. I wonder how they came up with this and the idea to have a modern poem with it. :-)

Best wishes,
Michael
by voxcoelestis
Jan 24, 2021 07:43 AM

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