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Buxheimer Orgelbuch Praeambulum super sol


Hi,

I am looking for the sheet music for this piece: https://youtu.be/9VRmNthtfqI
but I can't find it. Can someone help me?


Buxtehude
by Buxtehude
Feb 7, 2021 11:57 PM

Replies (10)

RE: Buxheimer Orgelbuch Praeambulum super sol

Buxtehude wrote:

Hi,

I am looking for the sheet music for this piece: https://youtu.be/9VRmNthtfqI
but I can't find it. Can someone help me?


Buxtehude

https://imslp.org/wiki/Buxheimer_Orgelbuch_(Various)

Download this one:
Complete score (50 excerpts and an appendix with 18 pieces from Kleber's book)
Editor Robert Eitner (1832-1905)
Leipzig: Breitkopf & Härtel, n.d.[1887]

Your selection begins on page 87 of this edition. They call it number 36, but confirm that it was called Number 53 in the original Manuscript... same as for the You Tube reference which you linked.

by OrganoPleno
Feb 8, 2021 03:24 PM

RE: Buxheimer Orgelbuch Praeambulum super sol

OrganoPleno wrote:

https://imslp.org/wiki/Buxheimer_Orgelbuch_(Various)

Download this one:
Complete score (50 excerpts and an appendix with 18 pieces from Kleber's book)
Editor Robert Eitner (1832-1905)
Leipzig: Breitkopf & Härtel, n.d.[1887]

Your selection begins on page 87 of this edition. They call it number 36, but confirm that it was called Number 53 in the original Manuscript... same as for the You Tube reference which you linked.

What I hear in the video is very different from the score, is there something I'm missing?

by Buxtehude
Feb 8, 2021 04:14 PM

RE: Buxheimer Orgelbuch Praeambulum super sol

Buxtehude wrote:

What I hear in the video is very different from the score, is there something I'm missing?

Evidently the performer is playing something else... but I cannot say what.

by OrganoPleno
Feb 8, 2021 05:13 PM

RE: Buxheimer Orgelbuch Praeambulum super sol

Buxtehude wrote:

What I hear in the video is very different from the score, is there something I'm missing?

He is actually playing "Number 240" from the Buxheimer Orgelbuch, which is properly called "Praeambulum Super Sol" (unlike the related piece Number 53 which is called "Praeambulum super G" in the Manuscript).

He does interpret it rather freely, with a certain amount of improvisation. I have not been able to locate a Free Download for this piece in modern notation, but there are complete Editions of the Buxheimer Book available.

Here is a link to the description of that original CD, this time with the proper index numbers:
http://www.medieval.org/emfaq/cds/ast7743.htm

by OrganoPleno
Feb 8, 2021 09:34 PM

RE: Buxheimer Orgelbuch Praeambulum super sol

OrganoPleno wrote:

He is actually playing "Number 240" from the Buxheimer Orgelbuch, which is properly called "Praeambulum Super Sol" (unlike the related piece Number 53 which is called "Praeambulum super G" in the Manuscript).

He does interpret it rather freely, with a certain amount of improvisation. I have not been able to locate a Free Download for this piece in modern notation, but there are complete Editions of the Buxheimer Book available.

Here is a link to the description of that original CD, this time with the proper index numbers:
http://www.medieval.org/emfaq/cds/ast7743.htm

Thank you!

Do you know Where I can find the sheet music?

by Buxtehude
Feb 9, 2021 03:37 PM

RE: Buxheimer Orgelbuch Praeambulum super sol

Buxtehude wrote:

Thank you!

Do you know Where I can find the sheet music?

You have a couple of choices here. The simplest would be to learn to read the original notation (Tablature). You can find this at the same link:
https://imslp.org/wiki/Buxheimer_Orgelbuch_(Various)
and download the one called "Complete Score (tablature) scanned by D-Mbs (2011/2/13)".

You can use the modern notations for the other pieces (which I recommended before, when we were looking for Piece #53) as a comparison to somehow decipher what it all means.

Otherwise, the printed version is available from baerenreiter.com:
https://www.baerenreiter.com/en/shop/product/details/EDM39_01/

This is Volume 3 of the full Buxheimer Orgelbuch, and includes pieces Numbers 231-256.
So it is supposed to include that Number 240 which was played on the CD and falsely labeled Number 53.

A warning is in order, that the Version on the CD does NOT strictly follow the Tablature. It leaves out one section of running notes, and improvises different harmonies NOT in the Tablature. Plus ornaments which are not indicated but are understood as being the performer's prerogative.

Another issue is the Accidentals, which are essential when playing but which are NOT given in the Manuscript. My take on it is that most B's (but not all) should be flatted, and a few F's (but not most) should be sharped. No telling to what degree the published edition would resemble the CD performance on this or any other basis. And the PRICE: 136 Euros! Strikes me as a lot just for 41 seconds or so of Organ Music. But, for those so motivated, it does exist and is available.

Hoping this is helpful. Now working on my OWN deciphering of the Tablature, and hoping to post the results (with attached MIDI file) in case it should turn out to be satisfactory. So that gives yet another possible access to a modern understanding of this venerable composition.

by OrganoPleno
Feb 9, 2021 04:36 PM

RE: Buxheimer Orgelbuch Praeambulum super sol

OrganoPleno wrote:

You have a couple of choices here. The simplest would be to learn to read the original notation (Tablature). You can find this at the same link:
https://imslp.org/wiki/Buxheimer_Orgelbuch_(Various)
and download the one called "Complete Score (tablature) scanned by D-Mbs (2011/2/13)".

You can use the modern notations for the other pieces (which I recommended before, when we were looking for Piece #53) as a comparison to somehow decipher what it all means.

Otherwise, the printed version is available from baerenreiter.com:
https://www.baerenreiter.com/en/shop/product/details/EDM39_01/

This is Volume 3 of the full Buxheimer Orgelbuch, and includes pieces Numbers 231-256.
So it is supposed to include that Number 240 which was played on the CD and falsely labeled Number 53.

A warning is in order, that the Version on the CD does NOT strictly follow the Tablature. It leaves out one section of running notes, and improvises different harmonies NOT in the Tablature. Plus ornaments which are not indicated but are understood as being the performer's prerogative.

Another issue is the Accidentals, which are essential when playing but which are NOT given in the Manuscript. My take on it is that most B's (but not all) should be flatted, and a few F's (but not most) should be sharped. No telling to what degree the published edition would resemble the CD performance on this or any other basis. And the PRICE: 136 Euros! Strikes me as a lot just for 41 seconds or so of Organ Music. But, for those so motivated, it does exist and is available.

Hoping this is helpful. Now working on my OWN deciphering of the Tablature, and hoping to post the results (with attached MIDI file) in case it should turn out to be satisfactory. So that gives yet another possible access to a modern understanding of this venerable composition.

Thank you so much!!

Can you post your deciphering in this post when you done?

by Buxtehude
Feb 9, 2021 05:21 PM

RE: Buxheimer Orgelbuch Praeambulum super sol

Buxtehude wrote:

Thank you so much!!

Can you post your deciphering in this post when you done?

No Problem!

https://www.contrebombarde.com/concerthall/music/44646

This will let you listen to my version (or download the MP-3 file), and also download the MIDI file (from Hauptwerk) and the Score (from my Sequencer, called "Anvil Studio").

The Tablature works as follows. Seven-line Staff, with marks indicating Middle C and the G above that, and the D above that. Note durations for the melody line are similar to ours... more flags means shorter notes, and dots add maybe 50%. The letters below that are the note names for the Bass line, and the letters below that are the note names for the middle part (tenor or alto). All of this is assuming one can make out the archaic handwriting. As mentioned above, for accidentals and anything about expressive performance... you're on your own!

by OrganoPleno
Feb 9, 2021 06:22 PM

RE: Buxheimer Orgelbuch Praeambulum super sol

OrganoPleno wrote:

No Problem!

https://www.contrebombarde.com/concerthall/music/44646

This will let you listen to my version (or download the MP-3 file), and also download the MIDI file (from Hauptwerk) and the Score (from my Sequencer, called "Anvil Studio").

The Tablature works as follows. Seven-line Staff, with marks indicating Middle C and the G above that, and the D above that. Note durations for the melody line are similar to ours... more flags means shorter notes, and dots add maybe 50%. The letters below that are the note names for the Bass line, and the letters below that are the note names for the middle part (tenor or alto). All of this is assuming one can make out the archaic handwriting. As mentioned above, for accidentals and anything about expressive performance... you're on your own!

Thank you so so much!!!!!!!

by Buxtehude
Feb 9, 2021 09:31 PM

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